John Stossel says “isms” have done so much damage, but people still believe in them. And among the worst are: racism, fascism, communism, progressiveism. Pundits talk about these things in terms of right versus left, but Free People’s Matt Kibbe tells Stossel, “When you think about it, they sort of feel the same. You still have government control of businesses and factories, you still have no freedom of speech, no freedom of association. There’s hardly any freedom at all.”

And, Kibbe adds, none of these isms have what it takes to save the world. “That’s a political philosophy to believe in,” Stossel says. Here’s more.